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we're going to go to robyn curncurn curnow. she has been in court for our early morning, but her afternoon. walk us through how the bail hearing went. >> reporter: i missed the last part of your question there. but i'll go ahead and talk. a very dramatic, quite sad, overwrought morning. a court that fits 60 people and about 150 were jammed in there. hot, steamy, and you could feel the tension and pressure as different sides argued over whether it was war anted to charge him with premeditated murder. throughout the process, oscar pistorius was not coping well. every so often he would burst into tears, sob. a colleague of mine inside the court says he is crying and heaving, hyper ventilating so much that the magistrate has had to tell him to literally calmdown, give him five minutes and told him to get himself together. he can't afford to have this adjourned all the time. very emotional scene. oscar's family putting their hand on him. they can touch him over the chairs from where they are sitting. is he in a lot of trouble, and t
we're going to go to robyn curncurn curnow. she has been in court for our early morning, but her afternoon. walk us through how the bail hearing went. >> reporter: i missed the last part of your question there. but i'll go ahead and talk. a very dramatic, quite sad, overwrought morning. a court that fits 60 people and about 150 were jammed in there. hot, steamy, and you could feel the tension and pressure as different sides argued over whether it was war anted to charge him with...
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curnow, following the case from johannesburg. you take a look at the affidavit here and there are inconsistencies when he talks about this case. michael bringing up a specific one about kicking the door down but he didn't have his legs. that he was in one place of the house, that he screamed out his girlfriend's name, didn't hear anything but it seems like she would answer if in fact she was in the bathroom. did you see anything wrong with this story? >> it's just -- it's loaded with inconsistencies. i mean, first of all he gets out of bed to close the door to the balcony. presumably he doesn't have a gun on him at that point. he has to go back underneath the bed to get his gun. by that time, why wouldn't he have seen his girlfriend in the bed if she were there? if she wasn't there, of course he would know she was in the bathroom. when you get to the bathroom, why is the door locked? why does he have to knock the door in? it sounds more like you have a girlfriend fleeing to the bathroom, locking herself inside and maybe an angry
curnow, following the case from johannesburg. you take a look at the affidavit here and there are inconsistencies when he talks about this case. michael bringing up a specific one about kicking the door down but he didn't have his legs. that he was in one place of the house, that he screamed out his girlfriend's name, didn't hear anything but it seems like she would answer if in fact she was in the bathroom. did you see anything wrong with this story? >> it's just -- it's loaded with...
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. >> cnn's robyn curnow is in johannesburg with more. very emotional scenes both at >> hi there, piers. we did hear from oscar pistorius his version of events, his story. it's all here in this 11-page affidavit where he paints a picture of being fearful of terror of horror of an intruder coming into his house. the defense arguing that he mistook his girlfriend for an intruder and that's why he shot at her. however, for the state, they say that's no justification for shooting somebody through a bathroom door. they say this was premeditated murder. they managed to convince the magistrate who agreed with them, which makes his bail hearing even more difficult. the onus now is on his defense team tomorrow in that court to prove exceptional circumstances, that he deserves bail and, of course, many people watching with great interest because oscar pistorius is a hero in this country. and they desperately want to believe this version of events. but as was said in court today, facts are facts. and it doesn't look that good, if you look at it as a
. >> cnn's robyn curnow is in johannesburg with more. very emotional scenes both at >> hi there, piers. we did hear from oscar pistorius his version of events, his story. it's all here in this 11-page affidavit where he paints a picture of being fearful of terror of horror of an intruder coming into his house. the defense arguing that he mistook his girlfriend for an intruder and that's why he shot at her. however, for the state, they say that's no justification for shooting...
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joining me from johannesburg, south africa, robyn curnow. there are reports that security guards found pistorius desperately trying to revive steenkamp, but what more can you tell us about that, robyn? >> there's still a lot of doubts as to what exactly happened that night. although that is indeed one of the reports, and i think there were quite a lot of people at one stage who made their way into that house. and we do know, according to officials close to the investigation, that oscar had carried her down those stairs. i have been in the house. they are white tiled stairs. we also know from other sources that there was a lot of blood. that's why police seem to think she know she was alive at that time. because she was bleeding so heavily as she was carrying her down. the thought he was trying to revive her at the bottom of the stairs, it's highly plausible, absolutely. >> the other question involves pistorius reportedly making a call at 4:00 a.m. on the night that steenkamp died. what do we know about that? what's that all about? >> well, i
joining me from johannesburg, south africa, robyn curnow. there are reports that security guards found pistorius desperately trying to revive steenkamp, but what more can you tell us about that, robyn? >> there's still a lot of doubts as to what exactly happened that night. although that is indeed one of the reports, and i think there were quite a lot of people at one stage who made their way into that house. and we do know, according to officials close to the investigation, that oscar...
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this is difficult times and strenuous times for oscar >> robyn curnow, thank you very historians, back to you. much. >>> we'll turn to a man who knows oscar pistorius very well. he's a u.s. paralympian who competed against pistorius in the 400 meter individual. he said that he was right behind him with silver and he joins me now. i would imagine everyone in the world of paralympics and indeed olympians all over the world are in a sense of complete and utter shock. what's your reaction to what's happened? >> yes, thanks for having me. like you said, complete shock. knowing oscar and competing with him for the past couple, three years. this is something i wouldn't relate him to. so when i heard the allegations and i heard him in the situation, i was in complete shock. i truly was. >> you've described oscar as a role model, a mentor, an inspiration and a brother. do you still feel the same way given everything we now know? >> yes. because i can only relate to the times i spent with him. and the times i spent with him, he went out of his way to help me out. even though we was competitor, h
this is difficult times and strenuous times for oscar >> robyn curnow, thank you very historians, back to you. much. >>> we'll turn to a man who knows oscar pistorius very well. he's a u.s. paralympian who competed against pistorius in the 400 meter individual. he said that he was right behind him with silver and he joins me now. i would imagine everyone in the world of paralympics and indeed olympians all over the world are in a sense of complete and utter shock. what's your...
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paul, let me start with you, as robyn curnow was reading from the affidavit, you know, his sequence of events was, thought there was an intruder, moved towards the bathroom, screamed at the intruder, then he shot, then he told reeva to call police, then he realized she wasn't in the bed. at that point you would think at some point she would have screamed because she was shot at, she would have responded to what he said. does his version add up? >> when i look at something like this, i have tried cases, homicide cases as a prosecutor and defense attorney, i always look for something that just doesn't make sense. the one thing that really doesn't make sense here is every couple has been through this moment, this bump in the night moment when you think maybe somebody's just come in downstairs. what's the usual scenario? the husband or the male, i don't mean to be sexist about this, goes out, sometimes with a gun if he has one, maybe with a baseball bat, but he grabs something and makes sure the woman in his life is safe, and then he goes to encounter the burglar. what happens in this case
paul, let me start with you, as robyn curnow was reading from the affidavit, you know, his sequence of events was, thought there was an intruder, moved towards the bathroom, screamed at the intruder, then he shot, then he told reeva to call police, then he realized she wasn't in the bed. at that point you would think at some point she would have screamed because she was shot at, she would have responded to what he said. does his version add up? >> when i look at something like this, i...
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cnn's robyn curnow joins us with more. good morning, robyn. >> reporter: good morning. and it was that testimony, wasn't it, it was those words, it was that explanation that people have been waiting for since valentine's day, perhaps that small explanation at least allowing some south africans to hold onto hope that their icon was, indeed, telling the truth, that he thought that she was a burglar, that this was a terrible misunderstanding. this affidavit here that i'm holding in my hand paints a very emotional, sad, tragic picture of what happened to oscar, he says, that night. he didn't have his prosthetic legs on. he was scared, he was terrified, and reeva was in the toilet, which was apparently a separate room from the bathroom, and we did hear the state saying earlier on that it was just over a meter wide by a meter wide, and so she must have been terrified because these bullets were coming in this small space. there's nowhere she could have gone. whether or not he killed her deliberately as the state argues it was premeditated or he argues it was an absolutely trag
cnn's robyn curnow joins us with more. good morning, robyn. >> reporter: good morning. and it was that testimony, wasn't it, it was those words, it was that explanation that people have been waiting for since valentine's day, perhaps that small explanation at least allowing some south africans to hold onto hope that their icon was, indeed, telling the truth, that he thought that she was a burglar, that this was a terrible misunderstanding. this affidavit here that i'm holding in my hand...
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robyn curnow in the courthouse as this is developing. >> can i read a direct quote from the magistrate. he armed himself, the motive was he wanted to kill. that's the -- the state arguing that oscar pistorius in a planned and premeditated way shot his girlfriend reeva steenkamp. quite dramatic testimony coming from the state. they kind of laid out a little bit of the evidence they had. not all of it, and they said they didn't need to say very much. for them, the facts were facts. a very simple case. they were quite confident, i must say, in court. oscar had picked up his gun, put on his prosthetic legs, walked about seven meters to a bathroom where his girlfriend was locked inside, and he shot four bullets through there, as she was hit three times. now they said basically substituted premeditated murder. the magistrate agreeing with him, saying that the defense really didn't disprove their argument, and he is saying oscar pistorius has to face the higher charges. now has to be exceptional circumstances proved by the defense. if he's even to get bail. >> so right now, the magistrate bro
robyn curnow in the courthouse as this is developing. >> can i read a direct quote from the magistrate. he armed himself, the motive was he wanted to kill. that's the -- the state arguing that oscar pistorius in a planned and premeditated way shot his girlfriend reeva steenkamp. quite dramatic testimony coming from the state. they kind of laid out a little bit of the evidence they had. not all of it, and they said they didn't need to say very much. for them, the facts were facts. a very...
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thanks very much, robyn curnow in johan nas berg. jeff, does it surprise you to hear that this statement is given to the police, so soon, so publicly? what did you make of it? >> i thought it was an absolutely crazy thing to do, to commit a defendant in a murder case to a very specific set of stories when he doesn't know what the forensic evidence shows. the autopsy evidence, how the bullets entered her body. and frankly, the story on its face is pretty pro pest rouse, it seems to me. the fact that he never said, reeva, is that you and instead just started blasting away in the bathroom, it really does strain frudility. >> so what are the questions you have in hearing pistorius' defense because he's now laid out what his defense is going to be? >> certainly the forensic evidence is going to be the most important. how many times was the gunfired? where did the bullets hit reeva? was she struck only through the door? was she struck before she went in the door? what were the surrounding circumstances? it's all well and good that he says
thanks very much, robyn curnow in johan nas berg. jeff, does it surprise you to hear that this statement is given to the police, so soon, so publicly? what did you make of it? >> i thought it was an absolutely crazy thing to do, to commit a defendant in a murder case to a very specific set of stories when he doesn't know what the forensic evidence shows. the autopsy evidence, how the bullets entered her body. and frankly, the story on its face is pretty pro pest rouse, it seems to me. the...